[As 2017 begins, I am slowly recovering from some congestion and an annoying cough. During this time, I’ve been keeping an eye on the whole “Russia hacked the elections” propaganda and finding myself in either a state of outrage or amusement at the allegations. It was becoming clear that I needed to balance my energies. Dwelling too much on the negative campaign of the elitists was stealing my energy. It was time to expand my awareness and reach a point of inner peace with the NOW.
I was intrigued by the title of the post below which I found on the Stillness in the Storm blog site. The original post appeared in Illuminati News. Although lengthy, it helped me to hurdle over my own fears about the “dark side” of the Force and see past the illusion of 3D reality. Rather unexpectedly (the viewpoint coming from a “Negative Polarity”), I found myself pulling away from an us versus them mentality, instead becoming unified with Source or Intelligent Infinity, where only One exists.
For some the material is no doubt controversial. Whether one believes in its veracity or not, I see the dialogue as a great tool for getting unstuck from duality thinking. Justin Deschamps, the editor of Stillness in the Storm, seems to be rather consistently good at using his highest discernment and cautions others to do the same. His comments before the Hidden Hand discussion are an excellent preface and not to be skipped. It is rather long but well worth the read. ~DV]
Saturday, January 7, 2017
Dialogue with “Hidden Hand”, Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider
(Stillness in the Storm Editor) The Hidden Hand dialogue is an enigmatic exchange that took place on the Above Top Secret forum in 2008, nearly ten years ago. The Hidden Hand claims to be a member of an “Illuminati” group he calls “the Family” that came to Earth eons ago to help propel the spiritual evolution of this planet. Although the dialogs are debated as to their authenticity, it is evident to anyone who has studied esoteric teachings and occult spiritual knowledge that there is an abundance of merit to what is described therein. Those capable of contemplating ideas without accepting them will find the below dialogs highly stimulating, an excellent exercise of philosophic exploration leading to an expansion of spiritual comprehension.
To review, the Law of One or Ra Material is a series of channelings or communications that took place in the early 1980s with a discarnate sixth-density entity that claims to be what is called a social memory complex—a planetary society of highly evolved beings that telepathically unite to form a singular racial personality. The Ra Material is widely regarded as some of the most accurately channeled information in history and is allegedly required reading within secret government projects that use fringe science.
Although Law of One vernacular is not required to gain insight into the Hidden Hand dialogs, it would greatly aid comprehension if one was familiar with the material. The same words and concepts are used by the Hidden Hand in the presentation of the information he has to offer. Thus, it is advisable to use the Law of One website to search for key terms, such as density, harvest, catalyst, karma, and evolution.
The Hidden Hand claims that the soul group of the Illuminati is similarly high density and came to Earth to take up the role of antagonists, so as to propel the souls here forward in evolution. This group was allegedly high density and chose to lower their vibrational state in order to go back through the third density experience—along with fourth and fifth—in a service-to-self capacity. As such, the Hidden Hand soul group, for lack of a better term, must polarize itself in the negative, acting as insidiously as possible in order to reach the requirement for graduation into fourth-density negative.
This presents an interesting premise that if properly discerned, can greatly enhance one’s meaning association process or the understanding of the spiritual nature of all things. That premise being, what if the lives we incarnated here to live—along with the things we do in relation to others—is part of a tapestry of contractual agreements between lives to play roles for mutual evolution?
If true, this would mean that all seemingly horrible occurrences are actually a kind of grand game or play to allow souls to experience various catalyst for soul growth. For example, if bravery and courage are desirable qualities for evolving souls, then must the incarnative experience be filled with opportunities to be brave—tyrants abound. If vigilance in the pursuit of truth is desirable, then must the incarnate experience be filled with temptations to blindly believe others—dogma everywhere. If kindness, compassion, and forgiveness are desirable above vengeance and wrath, then life must be filled with villains and evil-doers so that people can have an opportunity to forgive. If the universe is truly founded on free will as the primary foundational axiom, then life must be replete with an equal amount of opportunities to experience “good and bad things,” which mysteriously seems to help the individual and the collective evolve and grow spiritually all at once.
In essence, what if our soul brothers and sisters loved us so much, they were willing to take on the role of villains in life to help us learn and grow spiritually?
As one might imagine, this is a highly controversial interpretation of life, but not one that is incompatible with seemingly accurate spiritual schools of thought. The grand premise of Law of One in particular states that all beings are part of the One Infinite Creator of all things. And ultimately, regardless of whether one chooses the path of service-to-others (good) or service-to-self (evil), they are serving the One Creator.
The age old question of, “if God (the Creator) is loving, wise and benevolent, then why does s/he let so much suffering take place on Earth?” can be answered using the aforementioned premise. The “suffering” we experience is part of the catalyzing process for evolving consciousness, which is an eternal adventure. Goodness, harmony, and benevolence are potentials to be realized as a part of the evolutionary process itself—the creature is a part of the Creator and is meant to realize these potentials willingly.
But this choice to embody the potentials inherent in the spiritual essence of all beings is meaningless without an opportunity to experience both ends of the pole, both the good and bad. That is to say, the Creator formed the universe as a kind of unformed clay, sending the creature into it to become an agent of positive change. We are here to make right the wrongs of life, bring order to chaos, shine light into darkness and in doing so realize the our creator-like attributes and spiritually grow. Thus, life is filled with suffering and hardship—not because the Creator doesn’t have the power or desire to change things, but because we are meant to take on that role and be the change.
As a part of this premise, all souls help each other evolve by playing roles in the manifest creation so that each individual has the experience they need to learn and grow. This scheme or plan of creation is guided by what can be thought of as angelic beings from on high; this way, no experience or event is wasted and all things are in service, whether we realize it or not. In other words, the universal game of evolution is “rigged” for soul growth, via natural or universal law.
This means that nothing that happens in life, no matter how seemingly random, incomprehensible, tragic or horrific is by accident or fruitless. That is to say, all things and experiences are ultimately in service of the creature in their evolutionary pursuits.
Of course, from this side of the veil, the hardships suffered on Earth seem irreconcilable—how could pedophilia, rape, and genocide be beneficial?
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Additionally, this premise of “playing the bad guy” leads some to conclude evildoers need not be stopped in their harmful actions—because they are just playing a role. However, this is not an accurate interpretation of the premise being discussed.
The point is that some souls play the role of wrongdoer so that, as individuals and as a human race, we strive to stop harm and learn the ways of true justice and harmony with universal law. For example, pedophilia is a symptom of pandemic indifference and immorality within the human population. People tend to turn a blind eye to the hardships of others unless they are personally affected somehow. Thus, until as a people, the lesson is learned, and humanity recognizes that harm to one is harm to all, these horrors will continue. The souls experiencing them—within the discussion at hand—chose to “sacrifice” themselves to reveal the immorality and lack of spiritual development within the whole of the human population. And pedophilia is just one out of a host of spiritual sicknesses active on the Earthly planes at this time.
The aformentioned is just one concept out of many presented herein that can help one understand the seemingly complex tenets of the spiritual laws of creation as described within the Law of One philosophy, and elsewhere. One need not believe them to be true in order to expand their comprehension by thinking about them.
To be clear, I make no claims that the below information is 100% accurate. I am merely offering these as a vehicle to transmit ideas, for your consideration. In the thinking lies expansion of consciousness and a widening of the mind so as to generate knowledge and wisdom.
Related Understanding Service to Other (STO), Service to Self (STS), the Seven Densities of Consciousness, the Astral and Etheric Planes, and more — by Tom Montalk
This self-proclaimed illuminati [def] Insider appeared on the “Above Top Secret” forum in October 2008, giving away information about the Illuminati Agenda and their goals. The reason for this, he says, is because time is right for us to know someof what is going on behind the scenes. And when he explains WHY he needs to reveal it now, it’s very convincing. In this article I will post the dialogue between the “Above Top Secret Forum” members and “Hidden Hand” in its entirety.
Please take time to read through this whole dialogue (yes, I know it’s long, but I think we all can benefit from it, even if you end up not believing what is said). When you read it, you need to have an open mind; you can’t be stuck in dogma or think you “have it all figured out” already, because then it doesn’t matter what he says, you won’t believe it.
Here are some points which makes him very believable; one being that the forum members he is communicating with make up pages after pages of random questions (as you can see in this article) and he answers them intelligently and precisely without the delay it would take for a person presenting a hoax to come up with them. This is also what the forum members notice. And he is consistent! Many of the questions are very good, deep, to the point and philosophical, and this guy (or woman, we don’t know – this being claims not to be from this Earth), manages to reply on a very deep level, and his answers don’t contradict each other. In an advanced and intelligent dialogue like this, it’s very unlikely anyone would be able to do that without giving himself away at some point. You will most certainly notice he/she is sincere.
Ever wondered who is “on top of the Pyramid?” He gives us a clue. The bloodline he represents is well above the Rothschild’s in power and in the hierarchy and is extra-terrestrial in origin. The 13 bloodlines we have been talking about thus far on this website and others, with the Rothschild’s in a top position together with the Merovingian Nobility, are quite low rank in the Big Pyramid Structure, and are the ones playing a power game here on Earth, only aware of parts of the Big Game (a need to know basis). The bloodline “Hidden Hand” is supposedly belonging to is way more advanced and higher rank.
I really think this being believes in what he is saying, and whether he is deceived himself to some degree or not, this is most probably what is driving the Illuminati. These are their goals! It leaves you with a pretty strange feeling after have read it all, but deep inside it rings true.
His answers may need to be read more than once to understand the different layers of what he is telling us. Afterwards, when you start connecting the dots you notice that a lot of pieces in the big puzzle that previously were missing and left unanswered, suddenly fit.
If you are visiting the Illuminati News website for the first time, already have a fair concept of what the Illuminati and the New World Order is about, and you only intend to read ONE article from my huge database, I would say this one would be the one to read! [You certainly don’t want to lose this page and then need to go through data recovery on your internet browser hoping you didn’t lose it so you can come back to it later!]
It’s been hard to perceive what ULTIMATELY drives the Illuminati. Greed? Yes. Power? Of course. Control? Sure. But you always have this feeling that there is a deeper mystery behind their “Great Work of the Ages”. This may very well be the answer!
When you are done reading this article and feel inspired, please go to the website, Law of One, and start absorbing the information presented there. It is a huge database on the same subject, but extensively expanded. Both these article, may if we read them with understanding plus an open mind and an open heart, show us the real so(u)lution to the New World Order [def] problem.
Here is the dialogue between the Above Top Secret members [ATS] and “Hidden Hand” [HH], the self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider (the emphases inbold throughout the article are mine to separate out certain keys points I want to highlight):
HH: I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.
Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.
I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.
Rules define life in games.
If you wish to participate, here they are:
1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you in reciprocation.
2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.
3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of “provisional faith”. In practice, this means that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or petty name calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under “suspended judgment”. In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to the content of truth and knowledge imparted herein.
4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it by having to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer the questions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time we have wisely.
If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if I so choose.
That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me. I will check back and respond as time allows.
ATS: How many generations back does your bloodline extend, or, perhaps more accurately, who does your family consider its earliest ancestor in a position of power?
HH: Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded “history”, and beyond, our Family has been ‘directing’ the ‘play’ from behind the scenes, in one way or another. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are ‘born to lead’. It is part of the design for this current paradigm.
ATS: To what extent has selective breeding been used to preserve the purity of the line? and what becomes of children of unapproved unions? (They would naturally still be raised with privilege, but not, perhaps “given the keys to the castle” as it were?)
HH: The breeding is generally case specific, dependant upon the role that the Family members in question are due to grow into. I will touch more on this in answer to the next poster’s question that you rephrased.
There are no unapproved unions. Our Family will always intermarry between lines, or, what we would term ‘Houses’ . Marriages are arranged. In all my years alive, I have never seen or heard of a Family member breaking this code, as far as marriage goes. You do as you are told. One cannot ‘join’ the Family. One is ‘born’, or incarnated into it.
On the rare instances of a child being born that could be seen as bringing ‘difficulties’, you are correct in your premise, that it would be raised as part of the Family, though would not grow up in the house or community of either of it’s parents.
ATS: If one were to imagine a scale, perhaps as a triangle with Political, Religious and Corporate power at the three points, how would you categorize the power your family yields? (Balanced? Leaning more towards one or two than a third? Heavily favoring one of the three above the others?) And has that position shifted over time?
HH: You need to first understand the structure of the Family. In the grand scheme of things, the Line is not as important as the House, the House, is not as important as the Family. The Family is all. No matter the House or Line, we are One (truly international) Family.
Imagine if you will, a body. A House would represent a vital organ or body part within the Body itself. Each part has an important role to play in the functioning of the whole, and to each of us, the ‘whole’ has our undivided loyalty. As I say, many lines, (far more than you are aware of), One Family.
Our realms of influence do not fit as comfortably into the three boxes of your triangle as you may imagine. There are six disciplines of training within the Family, and each member of the Family is schooled extensively in all of them, from early childhood. We all have an area of specialty, though we have experience in all spheres. The six spheres or ‘schools’ of learning are Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences. In practice, out there on the ‘stage’ of public life, we hold key positions in all of these main areas of importance. With the addition of a complicit Media machine and ownership of your Financial establishments, all bases are covered.
I will have to reply in parts, due to the restriction of characters per post.
Napoleon making the “Hidden Hand” sign,
showing off that he is “initiated”
ATS: Which Ruling Bloodline Family…. Rockefellers?
That may be a bit too direct for our inquisitee. I’d offer the following substitute:
How many parallel bloodlines do you estimate are in similar positions to your own, and to what extent does your family see them as either competition or collaborators?
HH: Yes, as I say, knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important.
There are 13 ‘base’ or ‘core’ original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family.
No competition in the sense of House against House, though it is a ‘dog eat dog’ world. So there is interpersonal competition in that sense of the word. Everyone wants to move up. Our whole Familial society is geared that way, toward upward progression.
ATS: What does the term ” generational member” mean? Which generation specifically?
HH: It means that one is born into the Family. The Order and it’s agenda is handed down, from generation to generation. Only in extremely rare occasions, have outsiders been invested into the Family, and then, even these were of other ‘esoterically’ integrable lines.
ATS: Can you cite two or more previous instances whereby this directive has been upheld?
HH: Once in 1999, to what you would call an ‘alternative’ media source. Once in 2003, on another internet “conspiracy” based forum. Though the information relayed was not entirely ‘pure’. Not from the intention of misleading, but rather through imperfect or incomplete knowledge of the messengers.
If it is not in the mainstream controlled media, it will not be believed by the masses. This is information tailored for those who already know that we are very real, and exerting a strong, if mostly subtle, influence over your lives. If you wish to enslave a man, allow him to believe that he is already free.
ATS: By what basis is the timing of such revelations established?
HH: By the decree of the Supreme World Council, according to the Will of the Creator.
ATS: Are we really considered chattel and traded as such by the government?
HH: By the governments, generally, yes. People are seen as ‘collateral’. Pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board, according to the game plan. By the Family, contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm directly. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold, and we must play our parts in the game, as given to us by the Creator. In many ways, it is actually in our own interest that you are prepared for the coming Harvest. Just not maybe prepared in quite the way that you would like. Still, even then, you are choosing the Negative Polarity with your own Free Will decisions, with a little ‘help’ and direction from us. Souls are Harvestable in either ‘extreme’ of the Polarities, one could say.
ATS: If so, how do we become freemen?
HH: You will never be ‘free’, for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and ‘here’ is very likely not really where you think ‘here’ is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here . You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don’t make it, will have to repeat the cycle.
ATS: Is the Messiah alive today?
HH: There is no “Messiah”. Stop looking outside of yourself for ‘salvation’.
Is there what you might call a ‘Christ Consciousness’ alive, then yes, in a manner of speaking. Though not in your 3rd Density (dimensional) awareness.
ATS: Is it the end-times, as described in the book of revelations?
HH: Yes. Not just described in the Book of Revelations, but also in the prophesies of virtually every religion, spiritual philosophy, and mystery tradition throughout history. This time is now at hand.
To use your own example however:
14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.
The ‘earth’ is indeed ripe for Harvest. The question is, who will be ready? And will the Harvest be Positive, or Negative?
ATS: How do you justify that the current British royal family line is the true bloodline, but Ishmael is not the true receiver of Abraham’s gift? If you’re true bloodline, you’ll know what I mean.
HH: Who says it is the ‘true’ line? There were Ruling-Bloodlines long before your ‘Yahweh’ and his ‘Christianity’ arrived on this planet. Yahweh is ‘a’ Creator, not ‘The’ One Infinite Creator. There are other and Higher ‘gods’ than him. Ultimately, All, are a part of The One, and either consciously, or unconsciously, exercising their Free Will to Create. Begin to study ‘outside of the box’ for a True understanding of the Creation.
The British Royalty is not the most powerful line. The names that you know, do not hold the real ancient power. There are others above these lineages in the Hierarchy. You will not know the names of these lines.
ATS: OP, what proof do you have that “ruling elite families” exist and that your a member of one? Its something that I think you thought was not falsifiable, which is why you chose that identity for the story your weaving – however, I think there may indeed be a way you can prove it.
HH: I have no need to prove anything to you. I am merely doing my duty as directed to me. Believe, or do not believe, we are divinely indifferent. I am obliged to complete this task here. The end result is of no consequence to me. I will have discharged my duty, in handing down certain information that must be released at this time. There is no stipulation as to where I do so, only that I do. I chose Above Top Secret, as the general level of intelligence, comprehension and reasoning is reckoned to be higher than in many such forums.
Understand, due to the Law of Free Will, I cannot just give you information, at least not without consequences to my own person which I would rather avoid. It is an infringement upon your Free Will, your right to not know. You have to ask me for the information you want, only then can I provide it. So whilst there are important things I have to share, if I am not asked the questions, I cannot get that information to you. I am hopeful that synchronicity will bring the most important questions of real ‘depth’ out from among you.
My duty is to offer. Yours is to ask. My duty is fulfilled, whether or not yours is.
ATS: Surely if ruling elite families exist and your a member of one then you must be controlling global events through world governments – tell us 1 major government action from any country that going to occur in the next 5 days.
I won’t be surprised when you refuse to do so.
HH: [on Sept. 10, 2008]: I am not at liberty to discuss such intimate immediate detail, and in many cases, I am not far enough up the Hierarchy to know anyway. Typically, I would receive a call a day before the enactment of a major event, just to say something along the lines of ‘this part of such and such a plan will take place tomorrow, in such and such a way, do not be alarmed’. Also one has to take into account, the specific areas of specialty I mentioned previously. My area is in Spirituality, so my focus is not so much on Geo-Political events. I am aware of the overall design, though the finer points are not often my area of expertise.
I am prepared to give you some things coming down the timeline, that you will be able to look back upon, and verify my predictions retrospectively.
The Stock Markets will soon complete their controlled demolition. After an initial ‘appearance’ that the ‘bail outs’ and ‘rescue packages’ have steadied the ship, there will be new record lows by the end of the month.
Our Financial Institutions will later call in all loans. There will be many bankruptcies and foreclosures.
The only way John McCain will become the next US President, will be if something “happens” to Barack Obama before the election. If there even is an election. If a certain faction get their way, there will not be. Remember, behind the scenes, there is only One Party. Our Party. ‘Democracy’ is an illusion which is created to uphold your slavery. Whichever side ‘wins’; the Family wins. There are many possibilities and alternative ‘scripts’. All of them lead toward the ultimate implementation of the overall blueprint of our Creator.
Unless any unforeseen disruptions delay it’s announcement, there will be a new currency by the end of 2008 / early 2009, along with a new Union of nations. January has been spoken of in some circles, as the latest, though there are plans underway which could even bring this to fruition much earlier than initially hoped for. It depends upon the results of other upcoming events as to how this will play out. I am not high enough up the Hierarchy to know the intimate details of the dates and times that far in advance. There is a ‘tree system’ in which such knowledge is passed down, as and when it becomes ‘need to know’. I would be considered to be a “Regional” leader. Above me, are National and International.
San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner. Again, it depends upon certain ‘forces’ at play, and which timelines are activated. Humanity, though utterly unconscious of the fact, has a significant part to play in this. You (as a collective consciousness of the planet) are choosing the Negative Polarization by default, by the quality of your thoughts and actions. Thought is creative energy, focused. You get exactly what you put out.
Why do you think the Media is so important to us? You have (as a society), in your hypnotized comatose state, given your Free Will consent to the state your planet is in today. You saturate your minds with the unhealthy dishes served up for you on your televisions that you are addicted to, violence, pornography, greed, hatred, selfishness, incessant ‘bad news’, fear and ‘terror’. When was the last time you stopped, to think of something beautiful and pure? The planet is the way it is, because of your collective thoughts about it. You are complicit in your inaction, every time you ‘look the other way’ when you see an injustice. Your ‘thought’ at the sub-conscious level of creation to the Creator, is your allowance of these things to occur. In so doing, you are serving our purpose. It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful.
There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.
That is all I have time for at present. I have a Sacrifice I must attend now.
No, not really.
Let’s see if we can increase the ‘depth’ of enquiry and question matter in the next session. Seek beyond the superficial. Get to the ‘Core’ of the matter.
[End of End of first session]
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