Whistleblower, who worked for the top of the pyramid, reveals it all (Updated: transcript added)

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For if there is only one 39 minute slot free in your precious time today, please take that time to watch this video, an extraordinary story of one smart young man with entrepreneurial skills who was enticed to join the world of financiers who manage huge flows of money that circle the world.

In order to agree to learn this new and exalted “trade” which would bring him much more personal wealth than his old import/export business, he was told he must put his conscience in the freezer and keep it there, 100%. Being young and foolish, he laughed and agreed.

What follows is a riveting tale of how the money matrix world works, connecting the dots that lead from gigantic money flows all the way through to the Luciferian religion and its sacrifices of young children. As he says, he failed at becoming a psychopath. Why? Because the freezer broke down; he simply couldn’t stomach performing the murderous acts through which they would have blackmailed him, thus ensuring his compliance, forever.

His conscience had come back to life. Which meant that he could no longer “do his job” easily. He began to refuse assignments.

Had trouble pretending to be who he used to be. Finally, his body broke down from the stress. And when it did, he found himself looking down upon his body from a corner of the Emergency Room. This awareness, of his existence beyond the body, woke him up further to what lay beyond the world of not just money, but matter itself.

Extremely interesting and articulate, even though it’s hard to watch in translation, with subtitles.

With this one biographical story, the entire sleeping world could wake up.

This is the whole story in a 40-minute nutshell, and as his story reaches the midpoint you can tell that this man is very, very real. His experience has made him so. His story correlates everything we have read and watched over the past ten years intensively (and piecemeal before that).

 

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Interviewer: Ronald, you have a very strong background in the financial sector, asset management, deposit trading, as far as I understood. Can you us something about your experiences? For how long did you work there?

Ronald: Well, my experiences are more complicated than what you mentioned just now. Actually I have been an entrepeneur my entire life. Independence being the key component to me. I have once tried being an employee, but that didn’t work out. Being an entrepeneur, I have seen many sectors, amongst which I have experienced the financial world. All my other companies as an entrepreneur, like my own fashion line for ladies, car-dealership and also import-export had me involved to such an extent with building up my own fortune, it inherently guided me into the world of finance. Working in import-export, you encounter different currencies and you have to go to the exchange to trade through brokers. One of these brokers said at some point, “Ronald, I’ve been looking at your life for a long time and you are always busy. You earn money, we know, but what is your goal?” I replied: “the only goal I have as an entrepeneur is to earn as much money as I possibly can” because the more money I have, the quicker I can retire, be free and of course have status, basically everything you want in this society. Or at least, that’s what I thought back then. So the broker said: “In that case, stop what you are doing now, stop with all those companies and just start dealing money, go into the financial world.” And that is the beginning of that situation that is connected to your original question. The broker, had a place in the exchange market and he dealt in currencies, deposits, so trading in assets to make money out of differences in interest rates, and that involved the aforementioned asset management. Those three aspects together formed the interesting package I said yes to. He said: “All right, you can take my place here, I’ll train you, introduce you to the network, but in exchange I want 10% of your annual earnings.” So he basically sold me his spot in the financial world and asked a 10% commission which I paid him. I said “Yes, fine with me!” Then he replied: “There is one thing you need to know. If you can’t put your conscience in the proverbial freezer, and I don’t mean on -18 degrees, but on -100, then don’t get involved in this. Oops! That was the message, “you want a lot of money, you can obtain that, I can help you, but it comes at a great cost, because you can not do this with a clear conscience.” Well, I laughed at that, I was young and naive. From my youth, from the way I came into life; my far from ideal youth led me to develop a certain view of the world and humanity.

Interviewer: What do you mean by that? No warm, loving family?

Ronald: My mother always did the best she could to make us feel loved, but she was hampered by that due to the behavior of the father, who caused us to feel more like we lived in a war zone with each other. That isn’t an exemplary situation to grow up in. As a child, growing up like that led me to believe that the world and humanity are far from great.

Interviewer: So putting your conscience in the freezer was fitting in as a starting point?

Ronald: I was, partially, already used to doing that out of self-preservation, so to put my conscience in the freezer was not an impossible task to me.

Interviewer: So it became a survival mechanism to you?

Ronald: Yes, yes. And my view of humanity and the world around me wasn’t exactly positive either. I only thought of myself, that’s the way I grew up to be out of self-preservation and I got into the deal. Which meant, that slowly, I build up a customer base. As I improved my skills within the network, I got deeper into the financial world, and then it turns out the world is really small, and you keep noticing that. Even when I was still working in import-export dealing in grain and such, you notice it is just a small circle. And if we talk about the hard core circle in the financial world, I don’t mean miss Jean at the bank, but the big global flows of money which you use for trading.
Interviewer: You are talking about world wide cash flows, so not the Netherlands in particular where you started working?

Ronald: The Netherlands do play a distinct part in this story, but the world does not revolve around it. The Netherlands are part of a large global financial system in which you work through the exchange market if you want to do official transactions. And many banks, who do the currency exchange get certain assignments from clients, which they can’t get away with easily. Then the need arises for people like me, who were the straw men where big money flows are involved. We used certain financial constructions, international legislation, to move the money in such a way making everything ‘OK.’ So all supervisors, regulatory bodies that are in place world wide, because they are… That no one wakes up seeing what is going on, like a year or two ago, with the scandal around Panama…

Interviewer: The Panama Papers.

Ronald: Yes.

Interviewer: Yes.

Ronald: Yes then…

Interviewer: Tax evasion?

Ronald: I think, well that was about avoiding taxes, tax evasion is when you break all the rules. This had to do with avoiding. But when you see what happened there, I’m like “guys that is old news, and who are you boring with that?” Because it is peanuts and hardly relevant. However, for the common people, that is great news, but it is not anything big. But it does show, there is something very wrong in this world. For example, there are people in the Netherlands, with certain positions, who have bank accounts in Panama with legislation that allows them not to pay taxes in the Netherlands, which is still completely legal. Constructions like that were part of my job, when we had to change currency. We had changes, the first boycotts in Iraq early 90’s, when there was a boycott in Iraq because of the war that started there. And we were confronted with what we called ‘Iraqi-dollar’, Iraqi-dollars, which were actually American dollars. The American dollar has a direct relation to the oil prices which made it a world trading currency backed up by oil. As long as that connection is in place, the dollar has value. Officially, the Iraqi people weren’t allowed to sell their oil due to the boycott. In theory, that is because never before was there such big business in oil, with discounts in this case, because officially it wasn’t allowed… so with discounts it still crossed the borders. Because the energy was always paid in dollars, these Iraqi-dollars had to go somewhere. You couldn’t just take them to the desk at the bank because all the regulations and checks did provide a certain protection, because money laundering and criminality wasn’t anything new back then. Now we call it terrorism, but that was then also the case. So then you need people to take the heath. As straw men you got invited to a bank in, for example, Germany, with basements full of trucks filled with money. Interviewer: Wow! Ronald: And then you think ’sure… trucks, transports, a busy company.’ Then they show you they are all filled to maximum capacity with dollars. And they tell you “We need to get rid of all this cash.” So change them for Pounds, German Marks, this and that, in such way, and it needs to go there and there.

Interviewer: Are we now talking about money laundering? Or…

Ronald: Well, processing cash. Processing cash in such a way that we can legally reintroduce it into the money circuit.

Interviewer: So that was your task?

Ronald: That was an assignment my colleagues and I got.

Interviewer: Okay.

Ronald: You are never alone on an assignment, because you can not do this on your own. It is not possible. We all know Scrooge McDuck scooping money with his shovel, well we literally had to do that over there. It was impossible to process all at once. So then you need to find a way. cash used to be the predominant way of paying, where nowadays most is digital. But you tried to find a way to process the cash. How do you reintroduce the cash into the circuit so Iraq can deal in it’s oil without being hampered? Because they are the ones that own the money. Iraq doesn’t want to… look, you mentioned money laundering, but what it was about the boycott, Iraq had to stick to the rules, and by… you know, everything you want to know about the world, you can know by following the money. That is the bottom line. Everyone can say ‘blah blah’, but make sure you follow the money, then you’ll find the truth. Same goes for that situation. So the only thing Iraq and their buying partners wanted, was to remain free of any accusations. Because the partners who bought it were the ones placing the boycott in the first place. But they are actually all friends on the same side. Everybody thinks there are opposites like good and bad guys in the world, but on the higher levels it is just a game and they are all working together. However, they do have to stick to the rules and regulations, which they themselves have created to keep the rest of society suppressed and make sure that it will not be too crowded at the top. So you have to play by your own rules. So that is what is going on there, is to make sure that nobody can trace you. Apart from the elite themselves, nobody in the lower ranks can find out what really happened.

Interviewer: Compartmentalized, that’s how we call it.

Ronald: Yes.
Interviewer: Everyone knows only his own little piece. Only the elite knows what is happening.

Ronald: Yes, but because we were doing the dirty work, we had to know a lot. Because we couldn’t afford to make any mistakes.

Interviewer: How high in the pyramid did you get? Were you close to the top of the pyramid?

Ronald: Well, we were communicating with them.

Interviewer: Okay.

Ronald: My ego would have loved it to get to the position of belonging to the top itself. Nowadays we still talk about 8000-8500 people who run the entire world. It would have been amazing to get into such a position back then.

Interviewer: All right, but if we say the top knows 100%, can you estimate how much you knew and understood of what happened?

Ronald: In my work, I had to know 100% of what was going on. There was no other way, because the interests of the people involved were huge.

Interviewer: Especially for the top.

Ronald: Exactly. If I wouldn’t know all the details I would end up making mistakes. Which would cause a spin-off, because those mistakes would be detected. Then the people that don’t know anything about it, would interfere. We are talking about having nerves of steel to function at this level.

Interviewer: So did you have nerves of steel?

Ronald: Yes, it worked just fine.

Interviewer: The freezer worked very well for you…

Ronald: Yes, I played at the highest level for about 5 years. And then it was totally over, out and done with. That was a very intense moment for me.

Interviewer: That happened suddenly, or was there a reason?

Ronald: Well, no, the thing is… I gave a small example of what was involved. So in this case, currency exchange. Dollar to something else, deposited in a safe manner, and managing assets well, so it could grow to rate of return, leading to reinvestments with the money. The level I played at in those 5 years, and that didn’t happen overnight, you need to earn your place. I am skilled at connecting the dots, information in order to achieve a full picture of all the things involved, that need to be taken into account within the playing field. Which is a very detailed process. You stand out when you are gifted in this. This is the reason I was trusted with the full 100% of the information where it concerned my jobs. So I didn’t know about everything they knew, but everything I needed to know regarding the case I was working with colleagues. I was often put in the leading role, because I kept a good overview of the situation, and I was good at innovative thinking to solve the problem. I had fun, creating solutions in such a way to always stay ahead and outsmart them, staying within the rules of the game but playing around with them to make everything match up. I loved that game. However, on the other hand you had a great amount of responsibilty and you learned more and more about the real world, since through the financial world you learn all of the actual truth.

Interviewer: So you say “all”, in what regard?

Ronald: Well, your clients give you glimpses of how the world actually works. In hindsight, I still didn’t know everything, but I did know a lot, because my clients were banks who didn’t want blood on their hands. But within those banks there is always a number of people who know damn well what is going on. So like 1% within a bank knows the truth of the matter regarding the happenings within the world, which is not surprising considering they are involved in the flows of money. Those are your clients. You also have governments to deal with, multinationals, you have to deal with secret services, and what they now call terrorist organizations. You get all of those groups that involved with the big money as clients, then you start seeing the connections. So they might be compartmentalized as you just mentioned, regarding knowledge, but because I am in the middle I see how they relate to another; you see the money coming from this place, then going to that place, etc. You keep gaining information and thereby overview of what is really going on.

Interviewer: So do you have to serve and keep all of those groups happy, including terrorist organizations, you were trying to keep everybody happy?

Ronald: Yes.

Interviewer: Dear God!

Ronald: Yes. That was my job.

Interviewer: Keeping all the balls in the air.

Ronald: Yes, indeed. So one of the things that I found out that I did not know before, but now I do, is about secret services; you think they are there to serve and protect a people, country, etc. but they actually turn out to be criminal organizations, to be more precise, the system is heavily so. We are talking about financing wars, creating wars, so basically creating a lot of misery in this world. So lots of conflict. And then I think to myself, if only people knew what the world is really like. Secret services will stop at nothing. Nothing. But they also have their flows of money, because if they are trading in drugs or weapons, or for that matter, people… all that money has to go somewhere. Everything has to be financed.

Interviewer: You say “if”, but could you confirm they are doing this? Ronald: All of them. All of them. Interviewer: Yes.

Ronald: So the entire world as we think we know it, is just an illusion we believe in. Which is something you find out in this line of work, and where it all went wrong for me, to put it that way.

Interviewer: ‘Right’, you mean, finally that is.

Ronald: In hindsight, yes it was for the best, but my ‘freezer’ started to malfunction. There were things happening. For example, I went to a different trade market, and one of my colleagues there said: “Ronald, do you remember that case with the Italian lira?” I sometimes mention that during talks as well. “Do you remember those deals?” in which we did massive dumping of the lira, which reduced the value of the currency, which caused a company in Italy to be hit in such a way they went bankrupt. And then you hear at the exchange, “You remember that successful deal with the lira?” I say, “yes.” And then they say, “Did you know that the owner committed suicide and left a family behind?”

Interviewer: Things like that… Ouch.

Ronald: And back then we laughed at it. Ha ha ha, all together, all of us. We looked down on people, mocked them. It was just a product. Waste. Everything was worthless trash. Nature, the planet, everything could burn and break.

Interviewer: Just useless parasites.

Ronald: Just as long as we met our goals, as long as we were growing. Many of my colleagues ended up drinking or using drugs. Not me. Maybe I should have.

Interviewer: Or not.

Ronald: No, in hindsight, it was for the best and I’m happy to still be alive. However, all those horrible things started to eat at me.

Interviewer: Can you give an example, because I can sense a lot of terrible things happened to you.

Ronald: Yes, it is a difficult part for me to talk about.

Interviewer: I can feel that, but only whatever you wish to share is all right.

Ronald: Yes, I only talk about things I want to tell. But it does evoke lots of emotions and with my conscience not being in the freezer it touches me deeply.

Interviewer: Can you tell me the worst thing that has happened that caused the tipping point in your situation?

Ronald: Well, that was the beginning of the end. You get so deep into these circles, and you sign a lifetime contract. Not with blood or anything. To never disclose names of companies, organizations or people. I think that is why I am still alive. You have to stick to it. If we are talking about the worst things that I have experienced… I just told you about things that made the freezer glitch, my conscience started to show itself. Let’s put it this way, I was training to become a psychopath, and I failed. I did not complete the training, and didn’t become a psychopath. My conscience came back and the most difficult part for me was, because I had such a great status there, I was a success, I was trusted with the people playing at this level. To put it carefully, most of these people followed a not very mainstream religion. So you have Catholics, Protestants, all sorts of religions. These people, most of them, were Luciferians. And you can say, “religion is a fairy tale, God doesn’t exist, none of that is real.” Well, for these people, it is truth and reality, and they served something immaterial, what they called Lucifer. And I was also in contact with those circles, only I laughed at it because to me they were just clients. So I went to places called Churches of Satan.

Interviewer: So now we are talking about Satanism?

Ronald: Yes, so I visited these churches, just as a visitor, dropped by, and they were doing their Holy Mass with naked women and liquor and stuff. And it just amused me. I didn’t believe in any of this stuff, and was far from convinced if any of this was real.

Interviewer: It was just a spectacle to you…

Ronald: Yes, in my opinion the darkness and evil is within the people themselves. I didn’t make the connection yet. So I was a guest in those circles and it amused me greatly to see all those naked women and the other things. It was the good life. But then at some point, which is why I’m telling you all this, I was invited to participate in sacrifices… abroad. That was the breaking point. Children.

Interviewer: You were asked to do that…?

Ronald: Yes, and I couldn’t do that.

Interviewer: Would you like to stop for a moment by the way?

Ronald: No. And then I started to slowly break down. I lived through quite a lot as a child myself and this really touched me deeply. Everything changed. But that is the world I found myself in. And then I started to refuse assignments within my job. I could no longer do it. Which made me a threat.

Interviewer: For them… of course.

Ronald: I was no longer capable of functioning optimally. My performance started to shake and I had refused tasks. I had not participated. The purpose of the whole thing, eventually, in that world, is that they have everybody in their pocket. You need to be susceptible to blackmail. And blackmailing me proved to be very hard if I look back on it. They wanted to do that through those children. And that broke me.

Interviewer: Is that – you are not telling me something new – what they also do in politics?

Ronald: If you google this, you’ll find enough worldwide witness accounts to know this isn’t a Walt Disney fairy tale. Unfortunately the truth is that worldwide they have been doing this for thousands of years. I once studied theology and even in the Bible you find references to these practices with Israelites. The reason the first 10 tribes were banished to Babylonia was because of these rituals with children. Including the sacrificing of children. So this is pertinent, all this made me believe, because I realized there was more to life than meets the eye. There is a whole invisible world. It is real. You really do talk about a dark force and a manifestation of light. So I resorted to studying theology to make sense of it all.

Interviewer: And psychology as well if I remember correctly?

Ronald: Yes, but I that I did in my first life. Because through commercial psychology, mass psychology, I was able to manipulate situations for my own benefit.

Interviewer: That is scary, because if you dig into that you find Tavistock Institute and mind control, MK Ultra, Monarch and the like…

Ronald: Yes, that is correct, but that was all part of the job. Through training at the job I got into that more deeply, because when you are making deals you also need to manipulate the media. You have to manipulate lots of things because nothing can be seen as it is. Everything has to appear to be something different. You see the people as a flock of sheep. You put a couple Border Collies and drive them in a direction. And to be honest with you, I still see that happening around me. People are still, through the systems and methods that we ourselves used to use, being treated in that same way. And it still works. People still don’t understand how it really works and are still on the level of “as long as I have my beer” and whatever, completely self absorbed, also a survival mechanism. I mean it is the program after all, but you still see how stupidly easy it is to put people in a certain direction. When you are the one pulling the strings, that is.

Interviewer: Mass psychology.

Ronald: Yes. Much later in all those studies and discoveries I found a document, which they are claiming is bullshit of course, the protocols of Zion. And nowadays I recommend everyone to read the whole of that incredibly boring document. Just work through it, read it through.

Interviewer: We are also talking about Zionism…

Ronald: Yes, of course. If you read the protocols of Zion, and really study them and understand, then it is like reading the newspaper of the daily life. How from their position of ultimate power, and ultimate it has literally become, but that is only because the people don’t stand up for themselves. They don’t realize what reality is.

Interviewer: And we have all been programmed. If you dare say you are against Zionism, then you are brand an anti-Semite.

Ronald: The negative, you can say evil, the Luciferians, Satanists, whatever you which you call it… it is a real entity. I have found that what is written in the Bible, and not just the Bible, you can find it in so many books, there really has been a moment of separation from the manifestation of light, in which a group went their own way and are carrying an intense hatred, anger; the people who do not underestimate the severity of this are but few. Because this is an all annihilating force that hates our guts. It hates creation, it hates life. It will do anything to destroy us completely, and the way to do that is to divide humanity. Divide and conquer is their truth. Humanity is a manifestation of light. That is the true creation. As long as you divide them based on politcal parties, skin color, you name it… then you – from a Luciferian point of view that is – suppress the full capacities of your enemy, their full power. They can’t stand up for themselves, because if that would happen, the Luciferians would lose. Then this monster, the greedy monster would disappear. I tell people about this old American general who puts an entire room of people in the dark. The eyes adapt to the darkness, but you can’t see a thing. The general doesn’t say a word and suddenly he flicks on a lighter. One little light. Due to the prolonged darkness, you experience a manifestation of light from a single point and everyone can slightly see each other again. And then he says… “that is the power of our light.”

Interviewer: Beautiful.

Ronald: Unite. Unite. Come together, and this entire shit story seizes to exist. That’s how fast it could happen. But that is easy for me to say now, but then I was in a period of my life in which I was crumbling down.

Interviewer: Could you tell us something specific about that? Ronald: I started to refuse assignments. My conscience came back after the request involving the children and I started to refuse more and more. I had a conscience and I couldn’t function anymore. Interviewer: But you did still show up to work after that?

Ronald: I didn’t really have a choice, I had my own business with several offices and employees, everything was still rolling.

Interviewer: That must have been hard.

Ronald: Yes, it got very hard, all the tensions. So on the one hand, you are playing with money on a high level, in which you can’t afford to make mistakes, otherwise everything falls down at once, your entire business is ruined, everybody involved, including yourself. Then you are really screwed. So that brings a lot of stress, factoring in the resurfacing of a conscience. I was warned off when I got into this. “Don’t do it if you can’t put your conscience at -100 degrees in the freezer.”

Interviewer: And you probably realized that then?

Ronald: Yes, I heard myself laugh at it back then, but it wasn’t a joke at all. I totally did not understand where I really got into.

Interviewer: And your proverbial freezer was switched off?

Ronald: Broken. I couldn’t do it anymore. So I tried to work through it, keep up appearances. I didn’t know how to get out of this, I was trapped as well. Everybody was trapped. This all led me to crashing completely eventually. My body just simply stopped. The first thing I saw was my mother crying at the Intensive Care.

Interviewer: You ended up at the IC?

Ronald: Yeah, I really shut down. Interviewer: You had literally crashed?

Ronald: Yes. Yes. And… at that time I didn’t believe in anything, but I can still recall how I saw, from that corner, I was looking down upon myself. I saw how they were working on me.

Interviewer: You had a near death experience…

Ronald: Well, you could call it that. I have seen I am not my body. I’m ‘in’ my body, but I am not just my body. I have seen them working on me. And later on, I’ve been reluctant to talk about it for a long time. I really talked about it much later. But when I did, I had researched so many things already and started to believe. I was starting to better understand the spiritual and the material. At that point this intense experience got it’s own place. The realization that I’m not my body, it’s just a vessel. So I lived through all of that, but I also needed a long time to recover.

Interviewer: Yes, of course.

Ronald: Yes I was a train wreck. Complete wreck. I was completely burned out. I had crashed, and the body needed a year to recover. I don’t really want to get into it now, but in those circles I got tortured physically during my exit time. This was in order to make sure I would never break the contract of secrecy. So I was taken for a certain amount of time. I was ‘treated.’ All those factors together, just increased the stress I was experiencing, literally running full speed towards my own end.

Interviewer: Do you mean abductions, as we call it, or programming?

Ronald: No, they exposed me to certain types of torture that makes sure you’ll never damage anyone in that world. It did all happen that way, so the end of my first life was so extreme that I couldn’t handle it anymore. I couldn’t handle it anymore, in no way. However, my mindpower was so strong, that it only happened with and to my own body. That was… well, I didn’t know what to do anymore. There were no options left for me. So that is why sometimes I think – of course it is not true – but I wish, like so many colleagues, I had taken the drugs and alcohol route. At least my end would have been more gentle. Most of them are just dead by now. Even though I know there are more strawmen walking around, there are little still alive whom I knew back then. Most of them are already gone. Well I was dead too, but I’m still here.

Interviewer: So you still have something left to do…

Ronald: Yes, I suppose you could say that. But that is, I can’t say in short, since I don’t know how long we have been talking, the world that I found myself in. If you have any specific questions, then I can answer them, but I had hoped to be more concise. But I just don’t know how.

Interviewer: Well, you have my gratitude for all you have shared.

Ronald: To me, it is a very big deal.

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Dialogue with “Hidden Hand”, Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider

[As 2017 begins, I am slowly recovering from some congestion and an annoying cough. During this time, I’ve been keeping an eye on the whole “Russia hacked the elections” propaganda and finding myself in either a state of outrage or amusement at the allegations. It was becoming clear that I needed to balance my energies. Dwelling too much on the negative campaign of the elitists was stealing my energy. It was time to expand my awareness and reach a point of inner peace with the NOW. 

I was intrigued by the title of the post below which I found on the Stillness in the Storm blog site. The original post appeared in Illuminati News. Although lengthy, it helped me to hurdle over my own fears about the “dark side” of the Force and see past the illusion of 3D reality. Rather unexpectedly (the viewpoint coming from a “Negative Polarity”), I found myself pulling away from an us versus them mentality, instead becoming unified with Source or Intelligent Infinity, where only One exists.

For some the material is no doubt controversial. Whether one believes in its veracity or not, I see the dialogue as a great tool for getting unstuck from duality thinking. Justin Deschamps, the editor of Stillness in the Storm, seems to be rather consistently good at using his highest discernment and cautions others to do the same. His comments before the Hidden Hand discussion are an excellent preface and not to be skipped. It is rather long but well worth the read. ~DV]

Saturday, January 7, 2017

Dialogue with “Hidden Hand”, Self-Proclaimed Illuminati Insider


(Stillness in the Storm Editor) The Hidden Hand dialogue is an enigmatic exchange that took place on the Above Top Secret forum in 2008, nearly ten years ago. The Hidden Hand claims to be a member of an “Illuminati” group he calls “the Family” that came to Earth eons ago to help propel the spiritual evolution of this planet. Although the dialogs are debated as to their authenticity, it is evident to anyone who has studied esoteric teachings and occult spiritual knowledge that there is an abundance of merit to what is described therein. Those capable of contemplating ideas without accepting them will find the below dialogs highly stimulating, an excellent exercise of philosophic exploration leading to an expansion of spiritual comprehension. 

To review, the Law of One or Ra Material is a series of channelings or communications that took place in the early 1980s with a discarnate sixth-density entity that claims to be what is called a social memory complex—a planetary society of highly evolved beings that telepathically unite to form a singular racial personality. The Ra Material is widely regarded as some of the most accurately channeled information in history and is allegedly required reading within secret government projects that use fringe science.

Although Law of One vernacular is not required to gain insight into the Hidden Hand dialogs, it would greatly aid comprehension if one was familiar with the material. The same words and concepts are used by the Hidden Hand in the presentation of the information he has to offer. Thus, it is advisable to use the Law of One website to search for key terms, such as densityharvestcatalystkarma, and evolution.

The Hidden Hand claims that the soul group of the Illuminati is similarly high density and came to Earth to take up the role of antagonists, so as to propel the souls here forward in evolution. This group was allegedly high density and chose to lower their vibrational state in order to go back through the third density experience—along with fourth and fifth—in a service-to-self capacity. As such, the Hidden Hand soul group, for lack of a better term, must polarize itself in the negative, acting as insidiously as possible in order to reach the requirement for graduation into fourth-density negative.

This presents an interesting premise that if properly discerned, can greatly enhance one’s meaning association process or the understanding of the spiritual nature of all things. That premise being, what if the lives we incarnated here to live—along with the things we do in relation to others—is part of a tapestry of contractual agreements between lives to play roles for mutual evolution?

If true, this would mean that all seemingly horrible occurrences are actually a kind of grand game or play to allow souls to experience various catalyst for soul growth. For example, if bravery and courage are desirable qualities for evolving souls, then must the incarnative experience be filled with opportunities to be brave—tyrants abound. If vigilance in the pursuit of truth is desirable, then must the incarnate experience be filled with temptations to blindly believe others—dogma everywhere. If kindness, compassion, and forgiveness are desirable above vengeance and wrath, then life must be filled with villains and evil-doers so that people can have an opportunity to forgive. If the universe is truly founded on free will as the primary foundational axiom, then life must be replete with an equal amount of opportunities to experience “good and bad things,” which mysteriously seems to help the individual and the collective evolve and grow spiritually all at once.

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In essence, what if our soul brothers and sisters loved us so much, they were willing to take on the role of villains in life to help us learn and grow spiritually? 

As one might imagine, this is a highly controversial interpretation of life, but not one that is incompatible with seemingly accurate spiritual schools of thought. The grand premise of Law of One in particular states that all beings are part of the One Infinite Creator of all things. And ultimately, regardless of whether one chooses the path of service-to-others (good) or service-to-self (evil), they are serving the One Creator.

The age old question of, “if God (the Creator) is loving, wise and benevolent, then why does s/he let so much suffering take place on Earth?” can be answered using the aforementioned premise. The “suffering” we experience is part of the catalyzing process for evolving consciousness, which is an eternal adventure. Goodness, harmony, and benevolence are potentials to be realized as a part of the evolutionary process itself—the creature is a part of the Creator and is meant to realize these potentials willingly.

But this choice to embody the potentials inherent in the spiritual essence of all beings is meaningless without an opportunity to experience both ends of the pole, both the good and bad. That is to say, the Creator formed the universe as a kind of unformed clay, sending the creature into it to become an agent of positive change. We are here to make right the wrongs of life, bring order to chaos, shine light into darkness and in doing so realize the our creator-like attributes and spiritually grow. Thus, life is filled with suffering and hardship—not because the Creator doesn’t have the power or desire to change things, but because we are meant to take on that role and be the change.

As a part of this premise, all souls help each other evolve by playing roles in the manifest creation so that each individual has the experience they need to learn and grow. This scheme or plan of creation is guided by what can be thought of as angelic beings from on high; this way, no experience or event is wasted and all things are in service, whether we realize it or not. In other words, the universal game of evolution is “rigged” for soul growth, via natural or universal law.

This means that nothing that happens in life, no matter how seemingly random, incomprehensible, tragic or horrific is by accident or fruitless. That is to say, all things and experiences are ultimately in service of the creature in their evolutionary pursuits.

Of course, from this side of the veil, the hardships suffered on Earth seem irreconcilable—how could pedophilia, rape, and genocide be beneficial? 

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Additionally, this premise of “playing the bad guy” leads some to conclude evildoers need not be stopped in their harmful actions—because they are just playing a role. However, this is not an accurate interpretation of the premise being discussed.

The point is that some souls play the role of wrongdoer so that, as individuals and as a human race, we strive to stop harm and learn the ways of true justice and harmony with universal law. For example, pedophilia is a symptom of pandemic indifference and immorality within the human population. People tend to turn a blind eye to the hardships of others unless they are personally affected somehow. Thus, until as a people, the lesson is learned, and humanity recognizes that harm to one is harm to all, these horrors will continue. The souls experiencing them—within the discussion at hand—chose to “sacrifice” themselves to reveal the immorality and lack of spiritual development within the whole of the human population. And pedophilia is just one out of a host of spiritual sicknesses active on the Earthly planes at this time.

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The aformentioned is just one concept out of many presented herein that can help one understand the seemingly complex tenets of the spiritual laws of creation as described within the Law of One philosophy, and elsewhere. One need not believe them to be true in order to expand their comprehension by thinking about them.

To be clear, I make no claims that the below information is 100% accurate. I am merely offering these as a vehicle to transmit ideas, for your consideration. In the thinking lies expansion of consciousness and a widening of the mind so as to generate knowledge and wisdom.

Related Understanding Service to Other (STO), Service to Self (STS), the Seven Densities of Consciousness, the Astral and Etheric Planes, and more — by Tom Montalk

– Justin


Source – Illuminati News

NOTE TO THE READER: Words and sentences within this type of brackets [ ] are not part of the original article!

The Hidden Hand behind the scenes, to which this anonymous insider refer to

This self-proclaimed illuminati [def] Insider appeared on the “Above Top Secret” forum in October 2008, giving away information about the Illuminati Agenda and their goals. The reason for this, he says, is because time is right for us to know someof what is going on behind the scenes. And when he explains WHY he needs to reveal it now, it’s very convincing. In this article I will post the dialogue between the “Above Top Secret Forum” members and “Hidden Hand” in its entirety.

Please take time to read through this whole dialogue (yes, I know it’s long, but I think we all can benefit from it, even if you end up not believing what is said). When you read it, you need to have an open mind; you can’t be stuck in dogma or think you “have it all figured out” already, because then it doesn’t matter what he says, you won’t believe it.

Here are some points which makes him very believable; one being that the forum members he is communicating with make up pages after pages of random questions (as you can see in this article) and he answers them intelligently and precisely without the delay it would take for a person presenting a hoax to come up with them. This is also what the forum members notice. And he is consistent! Many of the questions are very good, deep, to the point and philosophical, and this guy (or woman, we don’t know – this being claims not to be from this Earth), manages to reply on a very deep level, and his answers don’t contradict each other. In an advanced and intelligent dialogue like this, it’s very unlikely anyone would be able to do that without giving himself away at some point. You will most certainly notice he/she is sincere.

Ever wondered who is “on top of the Pyramid?” He gives us a clue. The bloodline he represents is well above the Rothschild’s in power and in the hierarchy and is extra-terrestrial in origin. The 13 bloodlines we have been talking about thus far on this website and others, with the Rothschild’s in a top position together with the Merovingian Nobility, are quite low rank in the Big Pyramid Structure, and are the ones playing a power game here on Earth, only aware of parts of the Big Game (a need to know basis). The bloodline “Hidden Hand” is supposedly belonging to is way more advanced and higher rank.

I really think this being believes in what he is saying, and whether he is deceived himself to some degree or not, this is most probably what is driving the Illuminati. These are their goals! It leaves you with a pretty strange feeling after have read it all, but deep inside it rings true.

His answers may need to be read more than once to understand the different layers of what he is telling us. Afterwards, when you start connecting the dots you notice that a lot of pieces in the big puzzle that previously were missing and left unanswered, suddenly fit.

If you are visiting the Illuminati News website for the first time, already have a fair concept of what the Illuminati and the New World Order is about, and you only intend to read ONE article from my huge database, I would say this one would be the one to read! [You certainly don’t want to lose this page and then need to go through data recovery on your internet browser hoping you didn’t lose it so you can come back to it later!]

It’s been hard to perceive what ULTIMATELY drives the Illuminati. Greed? Yes. Power? Of course. Control? Sure. But you always have this feeling that there is a deeper mystery behind their “Great Work of the Ages”. This may very well be the answer!

When you are done reading this article and feel inspired, please go to the website, Law of One, and start absorbing the information presented there. It is a huge database on the same subject, but extensively expanded. Both these article, may if we read them with understanding plus an open mind and an open heart, show us the real so(u)lution to the New World Order [def] problem.

Here is the dialogue between the Above Top Secret members [ATS] and “Hidden Hand” [HH], the self-proclaimed Illuminati Insider (the emphases inbold throughout the article are mine to separate out certain keys points I want to highlight):

First Session:

HH: I am a generational member of a Ruling Bloodline Family.

Every so often, as per the directives of the Law of our Creator, a brief window of opportunity opens, whereby a select handful of our Family are required to make communication with our subjects, and offer you the chance to ask us any questions you would like answered.

I am double-bound in this duty. It is required of me by The Law of our Creator to offer this opportunity to you at this time, though I am also bound by the Law of (planetary) Free Will and by Family Oaths, that there is only so much I am able to say.

Rules define life in games.

If you wish to participate, here they are:

1). I will afford you courtesy and respect in the manner I address you, and I expect the same from you in reciprocation.

2). I will decide whether or not I am either willing or permitted to answer your question. If your question is not answered, it is either because I cannot disclose it, or because I considered your question was lacking in one or more of the following: respect, courtesy, intelligence, decency, or that it was otherwise unworthy of being dignified with a response.

3). That you agree to treat this potential dialogue with an aspect of “provisional faith”. In practice, this means that rather than impeding the flow of information with crass comments of disbelief or petty name calling, my participation here requires of you that you discourse with me under “suspended judgment”. In other words, wait until the process is complete, before deciding for yourself as to the content of truth and knowledge imparted herein.

4). That you formulate your questions intelligently. My time is limited. I do not want to waste it by having to trawl through pointless, futile, insensible or disrespectful questions, therefore I will answer the questions I feel are most deserving of a response, during the time that I have available. Use the time we have wisely.

If any of the above conditions are breached, I reserve the right to terminate our discourse forthwith, if I so choose.

That being said, I will attempt to answer your questions as honestly and openly as is permissible for me. I will check back and respond as time allows.

ATS: How many generations back does your bloodline extend, or, perhaps more accurately, who does your family consider its earliest ancestor in a position of power?

HH: Our Lineage can be traced back beyond antiquity. From the earliest times of your recorded “history”, and beyond, our Family has been ‘directing’ the ‘play’ from behind the scenes, in one way or another. Before the rise and fall of Atlantis. (Yes, that was indeed perfectly real). We are ‘born to lead’. It is part of the design for this current paradigm.

ATS: To what extent has selective breeding been used to preserve the purity of the line? and what becomes of children of unapproved unions? (They would naturally still be raised with privilege, but not, perhaps “given the keys to the castle” as it were?)

HH: The breeding is generally case specific, dependant upon the role that the Family members in question are due to grow into. I will touch more on this in answer to the next poster’s question that you rephrased.

There are no unapproved unions. Our Family will always intermarry between lines, or, what we would term ‘Houses’ [1]. Marriages are arranged. In all my years alive, I have never seen or heard of a Family member breaking this code, as far as marriage goes. You do as you are told. One cannot ‘join’ the Family. One is ‘born’, or incarnated into it.

On the rare instances of a child being born that could be seen as bringing ‘difficulties’, you are correct in your premise, that it would be raised as part of the Family, though would not grow up in the house or community of either of it’s parents.

ATS: If one were to imagine a scale, perhaps as a triangle with Political, Religious and Corporate power at the three points, how would you categorize the power your family yields? (Balanced? Leaning more towards one or two than a third? Heavily favoring one of the three above the others?) And has that position shifted over time?

HH: You need to first understand the structure of the Family. In the grand scheme of things, the Line is not as important as the House, the House, is not as important as the Family. The Family is all. No matter the House or Line, we are One (truly international) Family.

Imagine if you will, body. A House would represent a vital organ or body part within the Body itself. Each part has an important role to play in the functioning of the whole, and to each of us, the ‘whole’ has our undivided loyalty. As I say, many lines, (far more than you are aware of), One Family.

Our realms of influence do not fit as comfortably into the three boxes of your triangle as you may imagine. There are six disciplines of training within the Family, and each member of the Family is schooled extensively in all of them, from early childhood. We all have an area of specialty, though we have experience in all spheres. The six spheres or ‘schools’ of learning are Military, Government, Spiritual, Scholarship, Leadership, and Sciences. In practice, out there on the ‘stage’ of public life, we hold key positions in all of these main areas of importance. With the addition of a complicit Media machine and ownership of your Financial establishments, all bases are covered.

I will have to reply in parts, due to the restriction of characters per post.

napoleonhiddenhand122708Napoleon making the “Hidden Hand” sign,
showing off that he is “initiated”

ATS: Which Ruling Bloodline Family…. Rockefellers?

That may be a bit too direct for our inquisitee. I’d offer the following substitute:

How many parallel bloodlines do you estimate are in similar positions to your own, and to what extent does your family see them as either competition or collaborators?

HH: Yes, as I say, knowing the line is of no practical use to you. It is the belonging to the Family that is important.

There are 13 ‘base’ or ‘core’ original bloodlines. Yet there are many many other lines that spring from these, as do rivers from the oceans. If you imagine the 13 Original lines as Primary colour, that can be mixed to create a vast array of other colours, then you will have some comprehension. Again, no competition, just Family.

No competition in the sense of House against House, though it is a ‘dog eat dog’ world. So there is interpersonal competition in that sense of the word. Everyone wants to move up. Our whole Familial society is geared that way, toward upward progression.

ATS: What does the term ” generational member” mean? Which generation specifically?

HH: It means that one is born into the Family. The Order and it’s agenda is handed down, from generation to generation. Only in extremely rare occasions, have outsiders been invested into the Family, and then, even these were of other ‘esoterically’ integrable lines.

ATS: Can you cite two or more previous instances whereby this directive has been upheld?

HH: Once in 1999, to what you would call an ‘alternative’ media source. Once in 2003, on another internet “conspiracy” based forum. Though the information relayed was not entirely ‘pure’. Not from the intention of misleading, but rather through imperfect or incomplete knowledge of the messengers.

If it is not in the mainstream controlled media, it will not be believed by the masses. This is information tailored for those who already know that we are very real, and exerting a strong, if mostly subtle, influence over your lives. If you wish to enslave a man, allow him to believe that he is already free.

ATS: By what basis is the timing of such revelations established?

HH: By the decree of the Supreme World Council, according to the Will of the Creator.

ATS: Are we really considered chattel and traded as such by the government?

HH: By the governments, generally, yes. People are seen as ‘collateral’. Pawns that are maneuvered around the chess board, according to the game plan. By the Family, contrary to popular beliefs, many of us do not mean you any harm directly. There is just the matter of divine destiny to uphold and unfold, and we must play our parts in the game, as given to us by the Creator. In many ways, it is actually in our own interest that you are prepared for the coming HarvestJust not maybe prepared in quite the way that you would like. Still, even then, you are choosing the Negative Polarity with your own Free Will decisions, with a little ‘help’ and direction from us. Souls are Harvestable in either ‘extreme’ of the Polarities, one could say.

ATS: If so, how do we become freemen?

HH: You will never be ‘free’, for as long as you are incarnating on this planet. The very nature of your being here, is indication of that. There is a reason why you are here, and ‘here’ is very likely not really where you think ‘here’ is. How do you become free? By working out where you are, and coming to an understanding, of why you are here [2]. You are fast running out of time to do so, before the coming Harvest. Those that don’t make it, will have to repeat the cycle.

ATS: Is the Messiah alive today?

HHThere is no “Messiah”. Stop looking outside of yourself for ‘salvation’.

Is there what you might call a ‘Christ Consciousness’ alive, then yes, in a manner of speaking. Though not in your 3rd Density (dimensional) awareness.

ATS: Is it the end-times, as described in the book of revelations?

HH: Yes. Not just described in the Book of Revelations, but also in the prophesies of virtually every religion, spiritual philosophy, and mystery tradition throughout history. This time is now at hand.

To use your own example however:

Revelation 14:14-16:

14 Then I looked, and behold, a white cloud, and on the cloud sat One like the Son of Man, having on His head a golden crown, and in His hand a sharp sickle. 15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to Him who sat on the cloud, “Thrust in Your sickle and reap, for the time has come for You to reap, for the harvest of the earth is ripe.” 16 So He who sat on the cloud thrust in His sickle on the earth, and the earth was reaped.

The ‘earth’ is indeed ripe for Harvest. The question is, who will be ready? And will the Harvest be Positive, or Negative? 

ATS: How do you justify that the current British royal family line is the true bloodline, but Ishmael is not the true receiver of Abraham’s gift? If you’re true bloodline, you’ll know what I mean.

HH: Who says it is the ‘true’ line? There were Ruling-Bloodlines long before your ‘Yahweh’ and his ‘Christianity’ arrived on this planetYahweh is ‘a’ Creator, not ‘The’ One Infinite Creator. There are other and Higher ‘gods’ than him. Ultimately, All, are a part of The One, and either consciously, or unconsciously, exercising their Free Will to Create. Begin to study ‘outside of the box’ for a True understanding of the Creation.

The British Royalty is not the most powerful line. The names that you know, do not hold the real ancient power. There are others above these lineages in the Hierarchy. You will not know the names of these lines.

ATS: OP, what proof do you have that “ruling elite families” exist and that your a member of one? Its something that I think you thought was not falsifiable, which is why you chose that identity for the story your weaving – however, I think there may indeed be a way you can prove it.

HH: I have no need to prove anything to you. I am merely doing my duty as directed to me. Believe, or do not believe, we are divinely indifferent. I am obliged to complete this task here. The end result is of no consequence to me. I will have discharged my duty, in handing down certain information that must be released at this time. There is no stipulation as to where I do so, only that I do. I chose Above Top Secret, as the general level of intelligence, comprehension and reasoning is reckoned to be higher than in many such forums.

Understand, due to the Law of Free Will, I cannot just give you information, at least not without consequences to my own person which I would rather avoid. It is an infringement upon your Free Will, your right to not know. You have to ask me for the information you want, only then can I provide it. So whilst there are important things I have to share, if I am not asked the questions, I cannot get that information to you. I am hopeful that synchronicity will bring the most important questions of real ‘depth’ out from among you.

My duty is to offer. Yours is to ask. My duty is fulfilled, whether or not yours is.

ATS: Surely if ruling elite families exist and your a member of one then you must be controlling global events through world governments – tell us 1 major government action from any country that going to occur in the next 5 days.

I won’t be surprised when you refuse to do so.

HH: [on Sept. 10, 2008]: I am not at liberty to discuss such intimate immediate detail, and in many cases, I am not far enough up the Hierarchy to know anyway. Typically, I would receive a call a day before the enactment of a major event, just to say something along the lines of ‘this part of such and such a plan will take place tomorrow, in such and such a way, do not be alarmed’. Also one has to take into account, the specific areas of specialty I mentioned previously. My area is in Spirituality, so my focus is not so much on Geo-Political events. I am aware of the overall design, though the finer points are not often my area of expertise.

I am prepared to give you some things coming down the timeline, that you will be able to look back upon, and verify my predictions retrospectively.

The Stock Markets will soon complete their controlled demolition. After an initial ‘appearance’ that the ‘bail outs’ and ‘rescue packages’ have steadied the ship, there will be new record lows by the end of the month.

Our Financial Institutions will later call in all loans. There will be many bankruptcies and foreclosures.

The only way John McCain will become the next US President, will be if something “happens” to Barack Obama before the election. If there even is an election. If a certain faction get their way, there will not be. Remember, behind the scenes, there is only One Party. Our Party. ‘Democracy’ is an illusion which is created to uphold your slavery. Whichever side ‘wins’; the Family wins. There are many possibilities and alternative ‘scripts’. All of them lead toward the ultimate implementation of the overall blueprint of our Creator.

Unless any unforeseen disruptions delay it’s announcement, there will be a new currency by the end of 2008 / early 2009, along with a new Union of nationsJanuary has been spoken of in some circles, as the latest, though there are plans underway which could even bring this to fruition much earlier than initially hoped for. It depends upon the results of other upcoming events as to how this will play out. I am not high enough up the Hierarchy to know the intimate details of the dates and times that far in advance. There is a ‘tree system’ in which such knowledge is passed down, as and when it becomes ‘need to know’. I would be considered to be a “Regional” leader. Above me, are National and International.

San Francisco and Damascus, will be uninhabitable by the end of 2010, possibly even sooner. Again, it depends upon certain ‘forces’ at play, and which timelines are activated. Humanity, though utterly unconscious of the fact, has a significant part to play in this. You (as a collective consciousness of the planet) are choosing the Negative Polarization by default, by the quality of your thoughts and actions. Thought is creative energy, focused. You get exactly what you put out.

Why do you think the Media is so important to us? You have (as a society), in your hypnotized comatose state, given your Free Will consent to the state your planet is in today. You saturate your minds with the unhealthy dishes served up for you on your televisions that you are addicted to, violence, pornography, greed, hatred, selfishness, incessant ‘bad news’, fear and ‘terror’. When was the last time you stopped, to think of something beautiful and pure? The planet is the way it is, because of your collective thoughts about it. You are complicit in your inaction, every time you ‘look the other way’ when you see an injustice. Your ‘thought’ at the sub-conscious level of creation to the Creator, is your allowance of these things to occur. In so doing, you are serving our purpose. It is very important to us, that the Polarization of this planet is Negative at the time of the Great Harvest. That means Service to Self orientated, as opposed to Positive, Service to Others. We require a Negative Harvest, and you are doing a fine job of helping us to attain our goal. We are very grateful.

There will be dramatic changes to your climate and weather conditions over the next few years, as the time of the Great Harvest approaches. You will see windspeeds surpassing 300 miles per hour at times. There will be raging tsunamis and widespread devastation; and a solar emission in late 2009 early 2010 that will cause major melting of the ice caps, and subsequent drastic rise in sea levels, leaving many (international) metropolitan areas underwater.

That is all I have time for at present. I have a Sacrifice I must attend now.

No, not really.

Let’s see if we can increase the ‘depth’ of enquiry and question matter in the next session. Seek beyond the superficial. Get to the ‘Core’ of the matter.

[End of End of first session]

Click here to read the follow-up discussions by members of the “Above Top Secret Forum”.

***FOR THE REST OF THE SESSIONS (4 MORE), PLEASE VISIT STILLNESS IN THE STORM OR THE ORIGINAL POST IN ILLUMINATI NEWS. LENGTHY BUT HIGHLY RECOMMENDED READING FOR THE BIGGER PICTURE.